Hard to find stdout

[iskandr]

Find the standard out for a workflow seems to currently require opening the root node of the workflow, clicking "Backend details/queries" and then clicking "kubectl-logs". The process is overall cumbersome and "kubectl-log" seems particularly opaque. Why can't there just be "stdout" and "stderr" links associated with a workflow?

[smondet]

That's what Kubernetes gives us (kubectl logs doesn't give the distinction).

[hammer]

Wow I'm surprised that kube mixes stdout and stderr! Please vote at kubernetes/kubernetes#28167 and hopefully they'll fix that soon.