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Standard names: *Include aggregated monthly wet-day frequency and monthly wet-day mean precipitation* #221

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brasmus opened this issue Sep 9, 2024 · 6 comments
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brasmus commented Sep 9, 2024

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These are additions to the standard list and for aggregated data on monthly/seasonal and annual time scales.

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For each term please try to give the following:

- Term f_tp.gt.Xmm

- Description Wet-day frequency - fraction of days in the month with more than X mm in total precipitation

- Units Fraction

- Term mean_tp.gt.Xmm

- Description Wet-day mean precipitation - also known as mean intensity and is the mean precipitation over the days in the month with more than X mm in total precipitation.

- Units mm/day

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Thank you for your proposal. These terms will be added to the cfeditor (http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1) shortly. Your proposal will then be reviewed and commented on by the community and Standard Names moderator.

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I think we should be able to apply the term "wet day frequency" to any time-period, not limited to a month. The time interval could be indicated by specifying bounds on the time dimension. So, for example, if we wanted to report the annual wet day frequency for a series of years, the time bounds would be specified as being the start and end of each year.

The standard_name could be patterned after: fraction_of_time_with_sea_ice_area_fraction_above_threshold.
I suggest fraction_of_days_with_precipitation_amount_above_threshold.

In the description, we would include "The precipitation amount threshold value must be specified by supplying a coordinate variable or scalar coordinate variable with the standard name of precipitation_amount."

Another option for the standard name: fraction_of_days_with_lwe_thickness_of_precipitation_amount_above_threshold

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Dear Rasmus @brasmus,

Thank you for your proposal. Karl @taylor13 has suggested the name fraction_of_days_with_precipitation_amount_above_threshold or fraction_of_days_with_lwe_thickness_of_precipitation_amount_above_threshold for your proposed term f_tp.gt.Xmm. Following this pattern, the term mean_tp.gt.Xmm could become mean_precipitation_amount_above_threshold with the time bounds specified to a monthly interval, unless there is an example of a use case for handling this separately within CF @taylor13?

Best regards,
Ellie

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brasmus commented Nov 2, 2024 via email

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I just saw this discussion. There is already the standard name number_of_days_with_lwe_thickness_of_precipitation_amount_above_threshold

Based on this I have a couple of comments

  • I think that the threshold you are using is based is based on "lwe" ( liquid water equivalent), so that should go into the name.
  • Personally, when I read "fraction of days" I am thinking of "parts of days" (i.e. something subdaily). Would the contruct proportion_of_days_with_lwe_precipitation.... be better? (I know there already are a number of other standard names using "fraction_of_days").
  • Also, note that there is an old discussion on "non-strict" comparisons in #31. It seems that there were convergence (although I have not reviewed it in detail again) towards distinguishing between strict and non-strict comparisons. That discussion was partly related other discussions and lost steam, but when now introducing a new standard name I suggest that it would relevant take on board the distinction between ..._above_... (>) and ..._at_or_above_... (≥). It is not clear which one it is from the original proposal here, but I know that often "wet days" is defined as "days having at least 1 mm/day" (i.e. _at_or_above_)

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